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DHH is such an OG tech founder, I don’t think I realized his first paychecks from 37Signals was in the form of apple tech. What a shift to being such an apple fanboy to rage quitting and building a great linux distro that is siphoning his followers out of Mac. I love the reminder of Gary V’s Jab, Jab, Right Hook. Meaning that you should build a following first, give, give, teach, show you have value then ask for something. The host mentioned one day they were frustrated with something, his co-founder suggested basecamp, and his response was buy it. Not shop around, see if theres something better, just buy it. He said these are my people, they’ve already given so much that I have no questions to whether or not we should give them money.

As always with Charity Majors this was a pretty great interview. Lots of repeat ideas with some good nuggets. One common new theme here is getting comfortable shipping code you have never seen before. Pointing out there are few real differences in the before and the now, a lot of the same priciple apply to get the right #obervability stack setup, the right deployment patterns setup. Now we don’t have a person that immediately jumps up and yell’s I wrote that, Sorry everyone, and has a fix in 2 minutes because they know the exact failure mode they caused in an instant. Charity truely believes the kids will be alright. She is working with some high school aged kids making some incredible projects right now. The industry will need to learn how to re-embrace juniors and the non grey-beards. Why I’m sharing this link.